2nd Egg Recall Linked to Salmonella Under Way

bet no vegans get sick.

cavalldequer 3:31AM August 26, 2010

so whats going to happen to all the infected chicken

me of WY 6:52AM August 23, 2010

Socialism is a new hot-button word that people on extreme sides of the spectrum like to renounce. Just like people will use the word fascism. In effect, both may be right. That in choosing the "least of two evils," we've mixed the two most hideous types of government, where millions have died and many more imprisoned or enslaved under the governing party. The test really is in our discussions, that we don't use a method of tyranny in our arguments. As soon as we begin to use hot-button words like socialism and fascism, which our government may approach in some ways, we fail to address the simple fact of the matter; we've cut down the argument to base insults like "bleeding heart" or "baby killer" and haven't gotten any closer to solving the issues completely.

The Facts:

1. High density factory farming, especially when cutting corners, produces diseases such as salmonella, mad cow, swine flu, etc.

2. Adam Smith, in The Wealth of Nations, says the nature of capitalism is to cut corners -- that the machines and methods of production are created through the human tendency to get more out of their work in less time. i.e. the machine does the human's work.

3. Companies would rather separate and deny any instances of disease from their products, rather than admit any fault. For some reason, it costs less that way. If we want to avoid these types of outbreaks, and not let some people die meaninglessly, there must be some oversight that they don't cut too many costs.

4. The oversight is sometimes corrupt and inefficient. Just as we've heard in the story of the Materials Management Service. They can be bought, to the point of not doing their jobs.

5. Both sides of the debate have their flaws. If you disagree with this status quo, then something must be done that isn't drawing lines in the sand. Otherwise, it might never get done.

Some sort of direct involvement with the government needs to take place. People for the past 9 years have felt that they have no hold or say in the government and that it runs away once elections are over. I say we add a fourth branch to the government called "The People," we rent out sports stadiums and have massive brainstorming sessions where we can be heard. And it will be the only free branch of the government because advertising will pay for everything, since stadiums are littered with the stuff. Just an idea. No?

Cole W. of CA 12:43AM August 22, 2010

When you see the deplorable conditions these chickens are kept in,

as the result of factory farming, it is no wonder that we have

diseases spreading so quickly. Chickens are treated extremely

cruel. Factory farm producers have absolutely no conscience about what they subject them to. Animals were never meant to be confined

in such a shameful way. When you go to the store to buy eggs, be sure they come from "free range farms" only! Demand it!

We all will die eventually, but would you rather be able to move

about freely or subjected to an enclosure barely the size of

your own body for your entire existence. Just because they are

farm animals, they should be treated humanely and when the time

comes, killed humanely. They should be treated with the same

respect you would treat your own pets.

jdavis of WI 2:40PM August 21, 2010