Health Reform, Too Tough on Hospital Readmission

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Dr wrote: "if elders don't buy into [Medicare], they lose their Social Security"

Really? I can't find any evidence that is true, and have been told by a lawyer that it isn't.

Please tell us the source for that assertion: if true, it's a blockbuster...

Repctfully

RJ Walker of OH 4:58PM May 21, 2009

Dear Reader,

i may only some like a 15 year old girl. But im a girl thats been living with a problem and thats that my father has been taking care of me ever since i was little since my mother left me. But one thing that has been destroying my dad is his heart problem. But the other thing thats the problems is that we dont have money for both of us to have health insurance so im the one that got the health insurance and my dad still in pain every night. I pray to god that someday we can have the money to help my father feel better and live a better life. I love my father but i hate that his in pain. And i hate crying every night hearing him in pain.

Signed Jacqueline

Jacqueline of CA 11:03PM May 14, 2009

First of all be careful what you wish for - I certainly hope that the average American will take head and thoughtfully consider what health care will look like if our government runs our healthcare plans. The horrors!!

Nevertheless, there are hugh misconceptions with regard to what palliative care is and what place it should have on the table of health care reform. While hospice provides palliative or comfort care, multidisciplinary palliative care teams provide casemanagement for persons with chronic or life-limiting illness. These are individuals who do not have a prognosis of 6-months or less to live; these are individuals who may continue to choose curative measures; these are individuals whose unmanaged symptoms lead them to frequent hospitalizations with little relief. Palliative care brings the family into the healthcare discussion and decision making just as hospice care does, palliative affirms life and regards dying as a normal process. The overall objective of palliative care is not to prolong life at all costs but to enhance the quality of life, positively influence the course of the illness, and is provided in conjunction with other therapies that are intended to prolong life, such as chemotherapy or radiation therapy, while managing distressing clinical complications.

This is a medical model of service that is an extension of the Hospice model...this is a model that has proven to be cost effective while improving quality of life and patient satisfaction. If Palliative Care does not have a prominent place at the health care reform table we could all be in trouble!

Kimberly Connell of NY 11:39AM May 13, 2009

ps. They also purchased 'long-term care' insurance a couple of years before her hospitalization when she started showing signs of dementia.

Jackie Swenson of TX 7:39PM May 09, 2009

My Mother-in-law had diabetes and started poke her fingers twice daily to test her blood sugar level in her mid 50's. She had a heart attack at the age of 73 and went through triple bi-pass surgery. She eventually developed congested heart failure when she's 76 and passed away just half-month before of her 81st birthday last spring.

After her treatment at the hospital for congested heart failure, she was placed in a nursing home near her community to 'recuperate'. She never was able to leave the place even though it scared her to death to be staying in a strange place without her husband. She often cried herself to sleep. My Father-in-law had had two hip surgeries by then and was not able to take care of her at home.

He visited her twice a day for several years. I stayed with her during summer and winter breaks when I was a school teacher. My Sister-in-law, a nutrition professor, has been making an 8-hour round trip every other week to spend the weekends at my In-law's to help them out. My husband has not been working the past 6 years because my Father-in-law asked him to put off his job search. Now I am unemployed - after two brain tumor surgeries and two breast cancer surgeries - we are experiencing exactly what's described in the Book of Job.

During her 5 years stay in the nursing home, she only needed to be taken to the hospital once for some kind of acute care.

When her condition was deteriorating, she started getting hospice care. It stopped when she was getting better (we thought she might have gotten a natural by-pass after she was having a mini 'stroke') The hospice nurse showed up again four months later when Mom's condition deteriorated again. She eventually left us January 6 this year.

The 'government' needs to understand that nobody likes to stay in the hospital. The decision needs to be made by physicians and health care professionals. Discouraging hospital visits is only going to increase the medical cost because patients will require much more care with a worse illness. My In-laws has regular health insurance with medicare supplement. For those who are completely depending on medicare, I think they probably already have been putting off their medical care long enough.

Jackie Swenson of TX 6:48PM May 09, 2009

As a doctor who has worked for over 25 years in a large urban teaching hospital, and as a geriatrician and palliative medicine doctor, I appreciate Dr. Healy's comments on the need for access to hospitalization during advanced and serious illnesses. Sometimes the hospital is the only place that can make the diagnosis, give the right treatment, relieve the pain and other symptoms, and bring some relief to overwhelmed and exhausted family caregivers. Hospitals should not be punished and patients and families should not be denied access to this important safety net for the sickest and most vulnerable of our fellow citizens. It is, however, not correct to conflate palliative care with hospice and end of life care. Palliative care is medical care focused on relief of suffering and support for best possible quality of life during any serious illness- whther the patient will be cured; will live for a long time with chronic illness; or is nearing the last months to years of life. It is delivered at the same time as all other _appropriate_ medical therapies, and by appropriate I mean treatments that will actually and realistically help the patient. Hospice, in contrast, is a Medicare Benefit designed specifically for those at the end of life who have a short prognosis and have opted to focus their care goals on maximal comfort. The distinction is important- palliative care makes it possible for patients to get through bad diseases and difficult treatments (such as chemotherapy or surgery) with as little distress as possible and every patient who could benefit should know about it and demand it. Palliative care is not limited to end of life care.

Diane E. Meier, MD of NY 10:22AM May 05, 2009

Dr. Healy's dismissal of Hospice/Palliative is breathtaking and rather shocking for someone so connected ino the world of American health care. Frequent hospitalization is often an important clue that honest discussions about disease/prognosis/treatment options have not occurred, resulting in poor discharge planning. Using a measure of "aliveness", the 93% figure quoted by Dr. Hearly ignores the fact that although we can keep people alive, the real question, especially for the chronically ill with declining function, is the patient and/or family-perceived quality of life. Far too often we keep alive patients without offering options of less agressive care. Go into any ICU in the United States and you will find the beds filled with frail elderly, with multiple chronic diseases, undergoing invasive life sustaining treatments. What you are far less likely to find is any documentation of an honest discussion with the patient or family about all the options, not just the life-prolonging options. The growth of the palliaive care movement in the past 10 years has been a direct result of the failure of American medicine to honestly inform patients and families about all their options, resulting in prolongationg of dying, rather improved quality of living. So rather than "ghoulish", as Dr. Healy suggests, palliative care consultations in hospitals have been demonstrated to help patients and families make difficulty decisions, improve their level of satisfaction with health care, assist the primary physician in making difficult decisions,and lower hospital costs.

David E. Weissman, MD; Palliative Care Center, Medical College of Wisconsin of WI 5:31PM May 04, 2009

As a nurse who works with the elderly my biggest fear will be that our elderly will suffer for this. They have multiple, chronic illnesses. Readmissions aren't always unneccessary. Comorbidities make it difficult to manage care. Elderly patients don't always follow the plan of care and they end up in the ER. Many can't afford care even with Medicare. They wait until they are very sick before visiting the dr. While limiting Medicare payment will be cost effective for the government it won't take care of the problem. People are living longer and having more health problems as a result of this. Limiting payment due to readmission may be cost effective in the long run because many patients will die without care because they will not be able to pay and they won't seek medical attention for fear of having a large bill. It will be an effective way to reduce our elderly population.

Laurie of UT 8:47PM May 01, 2009

Obama has been told that medicare costs are toohlgh in the last 6 mos of life. This is one way of reducing costs. Dont readmit and people will die earlier saving lots of money.

gordon doolittle of TN 5:14PM May 01, 2009

I am an 89 years plus Medicare Insured person. In my persoal opinion, the last thing you want is being re-admitted to a hospital after even a previous stay of only (1) week or so.

I am a diabetic, Type 2, and am being treated for Lung Cancer. I over the last year I have been hospitalized for two accidental injuries and one time for tests related to Lung Cancer. I specifically do not theink this over hospitalization. Floyd J. Decker

Floyd J. Decker of AL 3:24PM May 01, 2009

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Bernadine Healy, M.D., U.S.News & World Report's health editor and author of the magazine's On Health column, is the former head of the National Institutes of Health, the American Red Cross, and the College of Medicine and Public Health at Ohio State University. A cardiologist and author of two books, she spent more than 25 years practicing medicine. In this blog, she covers matters close to her heart, including cardiovascular disease and other important aspects of personal health and health policy.

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